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gorgorybmus (September 4, 2008 at 3:04 am)
Friedman was not an evil person. But in order for his dream of pure capitalism to be realized it has cost great suffering where it was implemented. And the outcry is the fact that this suffering has been swept under the rug of history, which means that it can happen again, and again. Forget. The concern is that a new model of economy is gaining popularity, but it is ruthless, without concern for the interests/life quality of people. But, I guess they're the scum, the losers in this game. Life.
Shorackoff (August 25, 2008 at 4:21 pm)
Casual connection between what?
Radical socialist ideas have no chance either to get through in fast speed under normal circumstances.
They only happen gradually, just like most free market advances happen gradually (just browsing through countries on freetheworld(dotcom) shows that many make a gradual advance in small steps)
For some reason, she wants to make of Friedman (and other free market defenders, but especially Friedman) evil people who want these crisis and shape them.
ggeboski (August 25, 2008 at 12:36 am)
You have elided the causal connection. As she explains here, and at length in the book, those radical free market ideas have no chance under democratic conditions. So it is necessary to replace, weaken, or disorient people, or opportunistically to take advantage of a crisis, to push actual policies through. In that sense "malignant plot" (which is not Klein's formulation) is appropriate.
Shorackoff (August 25, 2008 at 12:16 am)
Well, she makes far more from it then it means.
After all, it is only the forword of one of his books.
And a keen observation.
It's simply a fact that people will resort to other ideas that are laying around in a crisis. A crisis proves the ideas being followed up to then to be failing, so naturally people will look for better alternatives.
And it's obvious that you can't resort to an idea that you don't know. (that isn't laying around to be discovered)
An observation, not a malignent plot
ggeboski (August 25, 2008 at 12:03 am)
She is simply quoting Milton Friedman: "Only a crisis--actual or perceived--produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around." It is not only having ideas "lying around"--it is consciously using a crisis to *implement* those ideas.
perkele0079 (August 18, 2008 at 9:46 am)
I'd hit that.
utubelurkr (August 1, 2008 at 1:23 pm)
The Original Conservation Pledge of the United States of American written in 1946. A pledge that the President of the US used to have to take before the nation upon becoming leader.
"I give my pledge as an American to save and faithfully to defend from waste the natural resources of my country - its soil and minerals, its forest, waters and wildlife."
human3485bil (July 24, 2008 at 10:55 pm)
Its kind of funny. I have for a long time been a fan of Klein's thinking and activism. Now I find I am starting to search out videos of Naomi Klein because I think she is really hot! Naomi you are downright SEXY, and sooo intelligent of course.
ruanrushedin (July 3, 2008 at 12:09 am)
I love her. She is rational and uses her logic. She posess great power, which is good knowledge.
911allo (June 28, 2008 at 8:47 pm)
Zionists DID CREATE all wars, look your history.
The Protocols of Zion is the DOMINANT force behind the last 2-3 hundreds years of history.
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