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carkenoba (August 6, 2008 at 2:12 pm)
...e servo fé l'inferno a sue preghiere, gloria all'immortal di Pindo ed Elicona.. grande monteverdi! orgoglioso d'essere italiano.
DerWandrer (June 29, 2008 at 4:13 am)
This may be wrong of me, but I really really want Jordi's robe and the percussionist's facial hair!
Bell1701 (June 27, 2008 at 7:54 pm)
The first Peri/Corsi opera, "Dafne", as I said, is lost except for a few small excerpts. I have, however, seen facsimiles of both the "Euridice" original scores from 1600 (Peri and Caccini), and have heard recordings of both in their entirety.
Having studied all three scores, this is the first "good" opera, but definitely not the first opera. Most people who call this the first opera have read their material from inaccurate or outdated sources with little to no academic credibility.
Antjekok (June 16, 2008 at 4:10 pm)
It indeed is performed in 1607 for the first time, and indeed isn't the first opera. But, on the other hand, the other 3 opera's of Peri are (almost) completely lost, and haven't been performed in ages. That's why in general this opera is called the first official opera.. So I think SimianHeretic isn't quite wrong here.
Bell1701 (May 25, 2008 at 9:00 am)
You are quite wrong on 2 things here. 1: This opera was first performed in February 1607, published in 1609 and 1615. 2: It is not the first opera. The first opera was Jacopo Peri's "Dafne", performed in 1598. Most of that opera is missing. That opera was followed by two settings of Rinuccini's Euridice, both composed in 1600 by Jacopo Peri and Giulio Caccini.
SimianHeretic (May 24, 2008 at 9:44 am)
This is the very first opera, 1610.
bebopnazi (May 8, 2008 at 12:51 pm)
Ha! This is too funny - what a tirade of commentators. I think the musicians here should just shut-up and let people enjoy her singing ;-) In all other respects this is an absolutely fabulous production -- the orchestral accomp impeccable... I just wish Monserrat was a bit more in tune that day (believe me, I've had my days too). IMHO, Lynne Dawson does a much better job of this.
urgay1971 (May 8, 2008 at 12:35 pm)
In her defense, she does some very nice affectation at one point, singing a bit low on pitch to great effect just before a cadence. But I think bebopnazi is commenting on her somewhat warbley and generally sharp pitch, especially on higher, sustained notes (5:50 especially). Most singers (and violinists) play quite out of tune -- but the vibrato covers it up. But vibrato as generally isn't allowed here (except for affect) for stylistic/historic reasons, making her job especially difficult.
jcm279 (May 8, 2008 at 12:04 pm)
You must be quite a musician yourself to make such an assertion.
bebopnazi (May 8, 2008 at 7:49 am)
No, she's just plain singing out of tune. And sorry jcm279, that's not different tuning/temperment systems, ornamentation, or Monteverdi's harmonies. It's just a singer singing out of tune... generally quite sharp. |
