xzaat (August 17, 2008 at 9:52 am)

This plane can land rolling and standing between 2 trees on longholmen.

collectorfun (July 21, 2008 at 6:51 pm)

Dead meat

majorpluraeng (July 21, 2008 at 11:52 am)

Nja, stealth är ingen nyckelförmåga till ett 5th generation plan. SU-47 Berkut till exempel har ingen stealth och är ändå ett 5th generation plan. Men som jag sa, det är nog inte långt ifrån SAAB att bygga ett 5th generation plan. Fast de brukar ju vara först med allting så det blir nog ett 6th :D vi får se.

nastykermit (July 21, 2008 at 11:15 am)

Ok jeg var ikke klar over at den hadde thrust vectoring. Uansett er stealth en av de tingene som gjør et fly til "5th generation". Ja Gripen er 4.5, det var det jeg sa tidligere :)

majorpluraeng (July 21, 2008 at 7:26 am)

The CV90 IFV and also, but not officially seen, APC (It can carry up to 8 fully equipped troops + 3 crewmen!) The CV90 is seen as the most advanced in the world, yes Puma has armor but CV90 has waaayyy firepower, a Bofors 40mm L70 gun with different types of ammunition that covers the whole battlefield scenario! Then the heavily armored chassis is not far at all from Puma standards, and its cheaper than the Puma!!! But of course, Puma is also an exceptional IFV/APC

majorpluraeng (July 21, 2008 at 7:19 am)

Jo då det har thrust vectoring, har sett det flera gånger. Sen är ju stealth inte ett måste men det är en bra fördel i luftstrider ändå. F-22 till exempel blev alldeles för dyr pga bland annat stealth. Sen är ju Gripen inte alls långt ifrån 5th generation, faktiskt är den 4.5! Nästa plan i SAAB serien kanske till och med blir 6th generation, vem vet?

nastykermit (July 21, 2008 at 5:53 am)

Umulig. Gripen har ikke thrust vectoring eller stealth, ergo det kan aldrig bli 5th generation.

majorpluraeng (July 20, 2008 at 5:21 pm)

JAS är faktiskt 4.5 generation. Nästa version, eller kanske till och med ett nytt plan, blir 5th generation eller kanske 6th, vem vet.

zibbaen (July 19, 2008 at 6:29 pm)

You do have to remember the Hornet is an aircraft for the navy, and navy fighters have almost never been as good as their land-based cousins (only ones I can think of are the F-4 Phantom and the A6M Zero). You can't really compare the two. But if you did, the Gripen would win. ;-P

zibbaen (July 19, 2008 at 6:26 pm)

I'm extremely proud of the Gripen, the CV90, and things like that. They really are top-of-the-line. Sure, the German Puma is more capable than the CV90, but it also costs about twice as much! And sure, the American, F-22 is far better than the Gripen - but it costs SIX TIMES AS MUCH - not counting the service and running costs, which are extremely cheap for the Gripen. And I'd rather have six Gripens than one F-22! =P